Saturday, October 3, 2015

Gun Control Advocates Tired of Losing

A family member ask me to weigh in on a Rolling Stone article below. '4 Pro-Gun Arguments We're Sick of Hearing.' First is the original article then my response.

While victims are being rushed to the hospital, many right-wing pundits and politicians are no doubt readying their talking points to explain why the 264th mass shooting of the year does not mean the United States should tighten up access to deadly firearms.

Well, guys, I hate to break it to you, but we heard you the first time. And the second time. And the hundreds of times since that our country has grappled with an individual eager to take out as many lives as possible with a firearm. We can recite your arguments in our sleep, and they haven't grown better through repetition.

1. "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."
This is a fantastic argument for those who can't tell the difference between one death and a dozen. Absolutely, a murderer can often kill one person or two with a knife before being stopped. But to really rack up those mind-blowing death counts – to make sure that many lives are destroyed and families ruined in the space of five or 10 minutes – you need a gun. If all you care about is apportioning blame and declaring that someone does or does not have murderous intent, then by all means, claim a knife and a gun are equivalent weapons. For those of us who are more worried about preventing unnecessary deaths than merely acknowledging the hate that resides in some people's hearts, however, the sheer amount of damage a gun can do is reason to limit who can get their hands on one.

2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime.

It's not that there aren't enough guns, either. There are as many guns as people in this country, and fully a third of people are armed. Even when shootings happen in gun-happy places, where armed people are sure to be nearby, this vigilante scenario simply doesn't work. That's because pulling a gun out and shooting back in the chaos of a mass shooting just makes things worse, as was discovered when a would-be hero at the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords very nearly shot the wrong man. (The actual shooter was tackled by an elderly man.)

3. "But, mental health!"
Opponents of gun control love bringing up the problem of inadequate mental health care after a shooting. This is strictly for deflection purposes, as there is no indication that Republicans will ever work on meaningful reform for our mental health systems – which, it's true are woefully inadequate. It's an issue that only matters to them in the immediate aftermath of a shooting – then it's forgotten, until there's another shooting. Rinse, repeat.

Also, the "mental health" gambit, in this context, is always vague. What exactly is the plan? Round up everyone with a mental health issue and put them under lock and key? That amounts to 1 in 5 Americans, the vast majority of whom have no violent tendencies. Will we have some kind of extensive mental health registry? A lot of Americans who struggle with mental health are undiagnosed, though, and putting them on a government list that restricts their rights is not a great inducement to get a diagnosis. There are a lot of shooters in this country, so we have some pretty good data on mass shooters. And that data shows there's no reliable way to tell who is going to go off like this, and only 23 percent of shooters have a diagnosis. Even if all of those individuals got gold-star treatment, the system would only stop a few shooters.

4. "Second Amendment, baby."
Here's a good time to remind everyone that the Second Amendment was written by slaveholders before we had electricity, much less the kind of weaponry that would-be murderers can buy today. But sure, if you think it's that precious, we can compromise: If you love the Second Amendment that much, feel free to live in a powdered wig and shit in a chamberpot while trying to survive off what you can kill with an 18th century musket. In exchange, let those of us living in this century pass some laws so we can feel safe going to class, or the movies, or anywhere without worrying that some maladjusted man will try to get his revenge by raining death on random strangers.  The article ends here.

I'm not a gun nut. But those arguments for owning firearms are pretty solid. The writer is sick of hearing the defense arguments because most of the media is anti-gun and after EVERY shooting they roll out with the typical emotionally charged articles against gun ownership. It never works. They are getting tired of losing.

Mass shooters don't care if there gun is legal or not. Or if they are in a gun free zone. Look at Chicago. A big 'gun free zone.' They'll have crazy numbers like 25 murders, 100 injured in one weekend by black on black gun violence. No big national frenzy. Nobody cares. I would feel safer in/near Chicago if I could legally carry my firearm. ESPECIALLY if I had a wife and/or children. That's just my opinion.  I can care less if this liberal writer doesn't 'feel safe' at the movie theatre. I don't feel safe in gun free zones.

The arguments were weak/ wrong. For example: She starts by saying only guns can kill in mass.
Knife-wielding attackers kill 29, injure 130 at China train station

She says armed people don't prevent mass killers in the 'real world.'

Armed, Off-Duty Cop Prevents Mass Shooting In San Antonio

10 Cases Where An Armed Citizen Took Down An Active Shooter

She says conservatives don't really want mental health screenings. Actually pro gun rights advocates usually point out that 9/10 times a mass shooter was on SSRI drugs and stopped. In other words its the pharma industry keeping Americans drugged up. When they stop taking their mind altering pills they become unpredictable. What I'm saying is that it could be the actual meds and not the persons condition.

There's something about our modern society. There's a sickness. I can't explain it. We must address what the cause is not just treat the symptoms as usual. Banning or regulating firearms based on a government approved health screening is dangerous.

The last argument about how 2nd amendment supporters are cavemen is typical and childish. Not much to say here.
In conclusion just because this writer isn't aware of these things doesn't mean that they didn't happened. Maybe she chooses to ignore them so they fit her arguments or maybe she's just ignorant.


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